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New Jersey’s Newest Smash Weeklies: Bringing a New, State-of-the-Art Venue to the Scene in 2024!

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Check out our FAQ below for some common questions and answers:

Entry & Payments, Prizes

How much does it cost and can I pre-pay online?

– People who are entering the tournament pay $15 ($10 venue fee + $5 into the pot). Unlimited casuals are included with the venue fee. We have all the setups needed, no need to bring a Switch, Dock, or SSBU with all DLC, but you are welcome to bring a GameCube adapter (Official Nintendo or Mayflash adapter is highly preferred). A monitor is not required either, as we provide 27″ 240hz 1440p displays at every station.
– People who don’t want to enter the tournament but would like to play friendlies must pay the venue fee, but they don’t have to pay $5 into the pot.
– Spectators (people who have no intention of playing at all, not even friendlies before or after the tournament) can come watch and enjoy the atmosphere for free.
– We strongly encourage you to pre-pay on start.gg

Casual friendlies are available before and after for those who want to congregate and get some games in.

How do I pay in-person and do you accept cash? You can pay at the venue front desk with all major credit or debit cards, Apple Pay, Google Pay, Samsung Pay and other NFC’s, and Afterpay. No cash, please. Once you pay, you will be added to the bracket. We accept:

Does the entry fee and prize pot fee have to be in cash? Actually, we prefer credit/debit cards. Payouts are via Venmo/PayPal.

How can I donate to the prize pool? Coming soon!

Is there a prize pool for the tournament I’m joining? Yes, every tournament has a prize pool. Scroll down to the rules section to see the payout information. It’s dependent on the number of entrants.

If I can’t make it, can I get a refund? If you’re not sure you’re going to be able to attend, we strongly suggest you register online and pay at the venue. There are no refunds once you’ve paid.

Controllers & Adapters, Setups

Do I need to bring anything besides a controller? That’s all you need! No need to bring a setup!

If I bring a GameCube adapter, can it be any brand? What if I don’t use one? Technically we will accept any brand GameCube controller adapter, but it is highly HIGHLY preferred that you bring either an official Nintendo adapter or a MayFlash adapter as they have the least issues.

Most of the common controllers are permitted. GameCube controllers are the best for the running of a smooth tournament, but you can also use a Pro Controller or Joy-Cons. If you’re using a Pro Controller, we’d recommend bringing your own USB-C cable to make syncing faster and simpler. Basically, as long as you’re not using a modded controller with macros, you’ll be fine.

I don’t have the adapter. No problem. Since approximately half of everybody uses GameCube, we usually have those. Also, sometimes people bring extra adapters so you could potentially use those.

Check-In, Start/End Times, Friendlies

What time is the tournament open for people to come in? You can come as early as you want once we’re open, there’s Switches available for you to practice or get some friendlies in with other early people. Our official casuals time starts at 6pm, with most people arriving at 630pm. See hours & location.

I pre-registered on start.gg, do I have to show up early? No, you can come any time up to the tournament start time.

What time do the the tourneys typically end? It’s entirely dependent on how many people are in the tournament and how many setups people bring, but they’ve been “ending” (grand finals finishing) typically around 10pm. Keep in mind that only the top four people in the tournament or so are still in the tourney by around 9pm. Most stations are friendlies by then, and friendlies go on until the last person leaves (typically around midnight). The tourney technically ends when the final match is played.

How can I let the TO (tournament organizer) know I’m running late? As soon as you realize you’re going to be late, immediately post a message in #late-check-in on our Discord server and a host will confirm. Kindly provide:

    1. Estimated time of arrival
    2. Your in-game name as seen on start.gg
    3. If you pre-registered on start.gg or not

It’s much better to pre-register in advance, especially if you’re running late. You can pay at the center when you arrive, but we can’t seed the bracket if you’re not on the attendees list!

When you arrive, please let a host know you’re there. Hosts are typically near the front of the venue when you come in. Side note: unless he’s busy running the tourney, our hosts are always down for friendlies, so if you want some practice in, let them know!

When do people typically show up? I wanna get some friendlies too. Any time after 6pm is typically when most people start to show up. 

Do you play friendlies afterwards? Yes, until the venue closes at midnight.

Could I just pay for friendlies and play for a number of hours before and after the tournament? Yes!

If I come in early for friendlies but I don’t have a Switch with me, can I still practice? We have all the Switches needed at the center that can be used for friendlies.

What is the cutoff time? Please arrive by 7PM and don’t be late as it delays the tournament for everyone. There’s also a chance you’ll be disqualified, even if you pre-register. We can’t wait for you forever. That being said, there is a grace period if you’re running a few minutes late. Please pre-register and use #late-check-in on our Discord server to inform us when you’re arriving.

My work ends at 6:30pm, I can get to your venue by 7:20pm, is that too late? Ehhhhh, that’s cutting it pretty close. There’s a good chance we’ll just start without you at that point, but message the TO in #late-check-in on our Discord server and you might be fine.

I had registered for today’s tournament but I won’t be able to show up, is there a way I could be unregistered from the event? Please post on #ssbu on our Discord server.

Pre-registration, Start.gg

Do I register on start.gg or at the center? You can do either, but pre-registering is extremely helpful towards running a smooth event! Links are here: Coming Soon | Coming Soon

Do people tend to register in-person for the Smash tournaments instead of pre-registering? A lot of people do but many sign up online too (even last minute). If people pre-register it helps everything run smoother, but you’re still welcome to do it in person when you arrive.

I’m trying to register but the registration website isn’t working. Can I register/pay on-site? If you have any issues registering on start.gg, they have free live chat support available. To date, we’ve had no problems with their platform. If you’re still having issues after troubleshooting, you’re welcome to register and pay in-person.

I signed up for the event online. I also paid online. When I get to the venue how will they know I paid online? We’re admins, we know 🙂

The credit card I want to use to pay for your event isn’t registered on my PayPal account, can I still use it to pre-pay online? You will need to add the card to your PayPal account first, or you are welcome to use your credit card in person (choose the “pay at venue” option on start.gg). You can also pay online with a current PayPal funds balance, if you have one.

I went to pre-register on start.gg but it shows no attendees. Don’t wait until the last minute like so many others, just go ahead and pre-reg now. It helps on all levels.

Brackets, Seeding, Rules, Procedures

At what point do you start seeding the tournament? Literally minutes before it starts because not everyone pre-registers (unfortunately). The TO can’t seed people if they’re not in the bracket!

What is “seeding”? Seeding is the process of entering or “planting” contestants on a bracket prior to the start of a tournament. This is done primarily so that the best players do not meet until later in the competition. If the two most likely to win players had to fight each other in round 1, then one of them is getting sent to the loser’s bracket right away, which isn’t exactly fair.

How does seeding work? Despite what some people think, seeding is not an exact science and there are a lot of subjective/case by case considerations to be made when seeding, at least at the weekly local level. The basic idea is that players are seeded in order, with the most likely to win on the top and the least likely to win on the bottom. This seems simple, but it is a lot more complicated than it appears. First of all, it is impossible to see the future, as “most likely to win” doesn’t mean “will win.” Seeding is based on previous results or experience, but not every player has already played every other player, and even if they had, there would be an exponentially large number of matchups to consider to make a “perfectly” seeded bracket. Also, many people register last minute and they must be seeded manually, which further compounds the difficulty of seeding “perfectly.” Additionally, nobody wants to fight their carpool/training buddy in round 1, that’s no fun! As such, the tournament organizer (TO) does his best to consider that while seeding as well. Lastly, players who show up for the first time have no results to speak of, so knowing where to seed them is arbitrary or speculative at best! As you can see, seeding is a delicate and complicated process, but we always do our absolute best to execute this task at the most fair and balanced level possible.

Do you ever run side events like doubles? Occasionally the TO will feel like running a side event when the main bracket is winding down. He’s done doubles, DK only brackets, Redemption (for 1-2 and 0-2ers), etc. Check our Discord server for the latest updates!

Do you offer arcadian style tournaments to give more people opportunities to win? Yes, we occasionally do this. Check our Discord server for updates.

Is there an age requirement to join the tournaments? There’s no minimum age limit.

Are there any rules about what you do after your set? After a set, win or lose, you might feel like throwing your controller or “popping off” in your opponent’s face, but we are here to have fun, not make other people uncomfortable. A salty no eye contact fist bump or a quick stand up “let’s goooooo!” is fine, but anything that disturbs other people’s matches (like slamming the table or screaming) will result in either a warning or a ban, depending on the severity of the incident.

Is there a rule against IRL stalling? Like someone taking forever between sets? You cannot stall excessively between your sets. If your opponent is taking more than a couple minutes between sets, let the TO know.

How can I make rule change requests? We value individual opinions but for any changes, we want to get as much of the community’s input as we can, so we can make sure that changing the rules is something that will please the majority. That said, feel free to DM us your opinions on what rules you think should be changed, if the stage list should be changed, or anything else you think would be relevant to bring up in relation to potential rule changes, and he’ll consider it.

What settings remain as default?

Advanced

Our Ruleset: Tournament Defaults
FS Meter Off
Spirits Off
CPU Lv. (Any)
Damage Handicap Off
Stage Selection Anyone
Random Stage Selection (See Stage List)
First to 1 Win
Stage Morph Off
Launch Rate 1.0x
Underdog Boost Off
Score Display Off
Show Damage Yes
Discord, Twitch

How can I join your Discord server to get more info? Join here and check the posts in #🔔announcements and #ssbu. These channels have the information most people are looking for.

What channel on your Discord server should I use to organize friendlies at Gamers Grove? #ssbu

Is there a Twitch stream for the tournament? Every event is broadcast live at https://www.twitch.tv/GamersGrovegg

How can I access VOD’s of the tournaments? Watch at https://www.youtube.com/@GamersGroveGG

What time does the stream start? Coming Soon on _____ nights and Coming Soon typically start around 7PM. A schedule is also posted on our Twitch channel.

Our Super Smash Bros. Ultimate fights are on! We warmly invite you to join us and compete in our tournaments coming soon – all skill levels welcome! Show up at 5pm (or earlier), play some friendlies, then let the brackets begin at 7pm! Pay only $10 entry and $5 towards the pot.  Unlimited casuals are included with the venue fee -until close! Come join the newest weekly Smashfests in the Tri-State area!

Join our Discord server! Meet other players, ask questions, suggest game titles we should carry, learn about tournaments and teams, and more.

  1. Download the app or use any web browser
  2. Create an account with an age over 13
  3. Use our invitation: https://discord.gg/W7Neakehy9 or press +, choose Join a server and enter the link

Stage List

Battlefield (any non-2D version)

Counterpicks

Our RuleSet

Rules

Gamers Grove Tourney
Style Stock
Stock 3
Time Limit 7:00
Items None
Advanced
Stage Hazards Off
Team Attack On
Pausing Off

Any settings not listed above remain as default.

Starter Stages

  • Battlefield (any non-2D version)
  • Small Battlefield
  • Pokémon Stadium 2
  • Smashville
  • Town and City

Counterpicks

  • Final Destination (any non-2D version)
  • Hollow Bastion
  • Kalos Pokémon League

Banned Stages

The following stages are banned (even in their Omega/Battlefield forms) because they alter the z-axis:
Dream Land GB, Flat Zone X, Hanenbow, Super Mario Maker, Mute City SNES, PAC-LAND, Duck Hunt

“Gentleman’s Rule” Stages

Players may play on any of the following stages provided they both want to:
Northern Cave, Fountain of Dreams, Yoshi’s Island, Unova Pokémon League, Lylat Cruise, WarioWare, Inc., Minecraft World, Halberd, Castle Siege, Wuhu Island, Mementos, Yggdrasil’s Altar, Rainbow Cruise

Set Procedure

We use 1-2-1 bans. A full explanation of this process is detailed below:
1. Players use Starter Stage Striking to determine the first stage:

  • Players play a best-of-one Rock-Paper-Scissors.
  • Whoever wins bans one stage from the Starter Stages list.
  • The loser then bans three.
  • Finally, the winner selects one of the two remaining stages.
  • Players select their characters. Either player may elect to do a Double Blind Character Selection, in which case a third party will be told in secret each player’s character choices. Both players would then select their characters, with the third party validating their character selections.

2. Players play the first game of the set.

3. Using the full stage list (both Starter Stages and Counterpicks), players determine the next stage that will be played on.

  • Winning player of the preceding game strikes two stages.
  • The losing player picks the stage for the next game.

4. Players select their characters.

  • The winning player selects their character first.

5. Players play the next game of the set.

6. Players repeat steps 4-6 for all subsequent games until the set is complete.

All tournament sets will be best-of-3 games, until winners semifinals and losers quarterfinals, where games are extended to best-of-5 games.

Stage striking does not persist across games. It resets after every match.

Payout Structure

  • 31 or fewer entrants will pay out through 3rd place: 50/30/20
  • 32 to 47 entrants will pay out through 4th place: 50/25/15/10
  • 48 to 63 entrants will pay out through 6th place: 40/25/15/10/5/5
  • 64 or more entrants will pay out through 8th place: 40/20/15/10/5/5/2.5/2.5
  • Example of a 64 player tournament: 1st wins $128, 2nd wins $64, 3rd wins $48, 4th wins $32, 5th wins $16, 6th wins $16, 7th wins $8, 8th wins $8. Tournament payouts are via Venmo/PayPal within 24 hours.

Other Rules

Tardiness

Anyone who is not present for their set by 15 minutes past the scheduled start time is subject to a total disqualification from the event.

Controllers

For ease of access, tournament staff recommends the use of the Nintendo GameCube controller. However, the Switch Pro controller and Joy-Cons are permitted control options. Turbo/Macro options on controllers are banned. Box variants of the GameCube controller are currently permitted so long as they do not have macros/turbo enabled.

Pausing

Pause setting should be off. However, in the event that it is not, pausing is only legal while either player remains upon their own respawn platform, and only for the purpose of summoning a tournament official or in the case of a controller malfunction. All other pauses will result in a stock loss to the player who paused the game.

Sudden Death

Whenever a game goes to Sudden Death, the winner is determined by stocks and percentage at the time the game ends. If both players are tied in stocks the player with the lower percentage is the winner. In the event of a percentage tie, or a game in which both players lose their last stock simultaneously, a 1 stock tiebreaker will be played with a 3 minute time limit. The results of an in-game 300% Sudden Death do not count.

Dave’s Stupid Rule

Dave’s Stupid Rule (DSR) is a rule that states that a player cannot repick any stage they have won on during a set. This rule is not in effect at our tournaments.

Character Color Dispute

If there is a dispute in character color, such as both players wanting to play as green Fox, the players will play a best-of-one Rock-Paper-Scissors to determine who gets the color.

Stalling

Stalling, or intentionally making the game unplayable, is banned and at the discretion of tournament staff. Stalling includes but is not limited to continuing infinites past 300% and reaching a position where it is impossible for your opponent to reach you. Stalling will result in a forfeit of the game for the player who initiated the action.

Warm-ups

Warm-up periods, button checks, and “handwarmers” may not exceed 30 seconds. 1st violation of this rule results in a verbal warning. 2nd violation may result in an automatic forfeit at the discretion of the tournament organizer.

Collusion

Players suspected of colluding may be immediately disqualified from the tournament. This includes intentionally throwing a game, splitting a payout, or committing any other form of bracket manipulation. The tournament organizer reserves the right to deny payout of event winnings to any player suspected of colluding.

Alting

You will be immediately disqualified from the tournament with no refunds if you are found using an alternate tag/tags and/or hide your identity to manipulate the bracket/seeding. The only exception to this rule is if the player notifies a tournament organizer prior to the registration end date.

Controller Interference

If your controller is found to be the cause of disruption to the tournament (mid-game or otherwise), you are subject to complete disqualification from the event.

Coaching

Coaching is the act of giving a player advice in the middle of their match or during their set, and it is not allowed. Saying nondescript statements such as “Lets Go!”, “You got this!”, or “mess ‘em up!” is not coaching. The following examples however, are, and they have consequences:

  • Minor violation: General statements such as “Play slow”, “Take your time”, or “Hit him!”
    • Verbal warning to the player and the coach. This warning persists for the entire event.
  • Major violation: Specific statements pointing out habits, specific options, or timings such as “Watch for his neutral getup!”, “His waft is almost ready!”, or “He keeps rolling!”
    • Player receives a game loss.
  • Severe violation: Physical interference to either player.
    • Player and offending coach receive complete disqualification from the event

Tournament Staff reserve the right to judge on what is deemed “coaching” and the severity of the violation.

Misinterpretation/Misconfiguration

Games or sets are not to be replayed due to a misinterpretation of the rules OR misconfiguration of game settings. Game settings should be checked and configured beforehand. It is the players’ responsibility to ask the tournament organizer for any clarification of the ruleset in the event of a disagreement, and the outcome of a game or set will not be changed after the fact unless under extreme circumstances, judgment reserved for tournament staff.

Final Rulings

If any unforeseen situations occur, judgment of tournament staff is final. Rules may be altered between phases of the tournament in the best interests of the event. (Example: A game breaking glitch is discovered on a stage mid tournament that could be exploited. Thus, the stage may need to be removed from legal play for the remainder of the event.)

Resources: New Players

Haven’t been to a tournament yet? Here’s some information that might help give you some incentive to join the competitive scene:

Written advice and information about the competitive scene

So I hear you want to get into competitive Smash (originally written for Melee but there is still good advice in general for first-timers)

Videos

(Note: Some are Smash 4 but the fundamentals are still the same)

General Resources

Frame data, game physics, character stats:

http://kuroganehammer.com/
http://www.onesmash.net/dojoGeneral Smash info

http://smashboards.com/
https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros

Character guides: https://smashboards.com/guides/

Match critique and questions: https://www.reddit.com/r/crazyhand

Smash Pro Tip Twitter account: https://twitter.com/SsbProTips

Tournament Set Videos

http://smashvods.com/

https://vods.co/

 

Smash Chat Rooms

https://smashcords.com/smash-5

This is a directory discord chat rooms (with and without audio) for discussion and support from fellow Smashers. I’ve found a lot of great resources through these chat rooms. Not all chat rooms are the same, look through them until you find one or more that works best for you.

Smash Travel Tips

Traveling for Smash? See these tips.

https://tinyurl.com/Smash-Travel-Advice

YouTube Channels & Streams

Reading Material

Reading Material

Playing To Win: Becoming the Champion

by David Sirlin

Link: http://www.sirlin.net/ptw/

This is a book on how competition in gaming works and having a “play to win” mentality. This means taking responsibility and accountability for everything you do and not putting excuses that only hold you back. There’s also a bit of competitive fighting game theory in here.

The Will to Keep Winning

by DAIGO UMEHARA

Link: https://amzn.com/B01JOEKKWU

Written by one of the world’s best Street Fighter players, Daigo, this book talks a lot about consistent growth, the benefits of staying humble, innovating, taking risks, and how to play with the mentality of learning and growing rather than focusing on just the win. Despite having the word ‘Winning” right in the title, the book teaches the value of focusing less on the results and more on the process.

The Inner Game of Tennis

by W. Timothy Gallwey et al.

Link: https://amzn.com/0679778314

Yes this is a book on Tennis but it talks about the inner workings of your mind and how to get the best out of competitive performance and practice. Very much worth the read.

The Way of the Bow

by Paulo Coelho

Link: http://a.co/iR14a9T

How to overcome difficulties, steadfastness, courage to take risky decisions

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